Joh 15:16  Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

We have reached the final lesson, the climax if you will, in our teaching on prayer "in Jesus name". Here is the brief recap:

1) In my blog, Prayer-In Jesus Name?, we learned that many of us pray "in jesus name" the same way witches and pagans use prayers and spells. We say our prayer, which is a request for something from God, and then we "cast the spell", which is the command to the heavenly universal powers ("in Jesus name") which we believe assures us our prayer will be answered affirmatively.

2) John 14 says that prayers in Jesus name can be assured when the answer will give glory to the the Father in the Son, and when they agree with the Hoy Spirit's teaching on Jesus. 

3) John 16 says that prayers in Jesus name are assured when we pray for our joy to be filled with/by the love God the Father has for us


We discussed how, using the phrase "in my name" as the connector of the texts, the structure of the texts is chiastic, or pyramidal. Of the 3 texts in John 14 (verses 13, 14, and 26) the main point is verse 14, with verses 13 and 26 as support. Of the 3 texts in John 16 (verses 23, 24, and 26-27), we understood that verse 24 was the main point, with verses 23 and 26-27 as support. This means that of the 7 verses in John using the phrase "in my name (John 14: 13, 14, 26/ 15:16 / 16:23, 24, 26-27) the main point John is trying to make is John 15:16, with all other verses as a support, pointing toward 15:16.

This means that the certainty of answered prayer by Jesus and the Father, when we pray in Jesus name, for the purpose of being bathed in the love of God so that our joy may be full, based on Father getting glory in the Son, the Spirit teach us all things which Jesus has commanded, as it is revealed in scripture...all these are supporting positions, foundation and supplementary, to what 15:16 has to say.

So what does 15:16 say? Here is the text: 

Joh 15:16  Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

Jesus starts this section with an assertion: "You have not chosen me, but I have chosen you..." This is not saying that people didnt have a choice. When Jesus says to each disciple, "follow me" they do not suddenly become zombies who lack the ability to think and decide. They each chose to follow Jesus. This choosing that Jesus is discussing is intimately connected to his identity. He makes this connection when He tells them that not only has He chosen them, but He also "...ordained you...". Appointed, ordered, set aside, etc.: these are some of the meanings. This verse is directly following verse 15 where Jesus says:


Joh 15:15  Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.


He calls them servents no more. When He called them to Himself, He did it with authority, so that when they followed him they realized their subordinate position. He asserted His right to choose and call them, they asserted their right and choice to follow Him. What is Jesus saying? He is saying this: they didn't ordain Him as Master, Messiah, Son of God. These He already was. All they could do was choose to follow Him. He, as Master, Messiah, Son of God, chose to call them, asserted his right to pick them out of all other Jews, and set them aside as His apostles. They didn't even set themselves aside as His apostles! This is not the people picking from among themselves a King, and then setting themselves up as His court. This is a King showing up and choosing his court! Jesus continues His humility by saying that not only does He not call them servents, but He calls them friends. They couldn't make Him do that! That is the prerogative of the King to make the commoner His friend!

Jesus says he chose them, and ordained them, and then there is this interesting twist. There is this 3-fold movement which is then summarized in the last phrase. 

"...that ye should go and

(that you should) bring forth fruit, and

that your fruit should remain:

that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you."

A pilgrim

A pilgrim

Jesus wants them, and us, to go. This "go" is movement based. He is not building anything except people. There is nothing in this "go" that says that we should stop moving at any point in time. This "go" is the proverbial vision Jesus for His people...we are pilgrims. We have not arrived. We are travelers toward a destination. We are emisarrie, ambassadors, sent out by our Lord and  Friend, to call others to Him, to be His call for others lost like us. 

We are to "...go and bring forth fruit ..." From where? It doesn't say. If this is a great commision then we are to go and bring forth the fruit of other believers. If this is a personal statement, then we are to bring forth fruit of righteousness in our own lives.

We are to "...go and bring forth fruit, and that (our) fruit should remain..." This remain means endure, stay, continue, with the idea of being in a given place, relationship, and place with expectancy). Does this mean that the souls we bring to Jesus will remain, that our righteous deeds and character will remain? I submit that it is both. Remain until when?


Joh 14:1-3  Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 

Jesus wants our fruit, our labors, our characters, and the souls we minister to remain, until He returns for us. 

How are we to go? Where are we to go? How are we to bear this fruit? How are we to win souls? How are we to have our characters changed? 

 "...that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you."

The Hebrew High Priest, with prayer incense.

The Hebrew High Priest, with prayer incense.

We are to ask, "in my name". We have been chosen, and that whatever we ask the Father in Jesus name, he may give it. We have been chosen and ordained so that the Father may give us our request. Sin made our prayers a stench to God, thus, he was not compelled to answer. However, when surrounded in the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus, as is revealed by the Holy Spirit in scripture, when prayed for the glory of God In Christ Jesus, when prayer simply because we long to be comsumed by God's 4-fold love for us, we are assured that God will affirmatively answer our prayers.





The Root: pursuing our joy-fullness in God's 4-fold love for us, asking for things that will bring God glory in the Son, while seeking to be in submission to the Holy Spirit's teaching of Jesus as is found is scripture

The Fruit: the "going" for the purpose of fruitfulness in holiness of Character and the salvation of other souls, both of which are to endure forever.

When our roots are grounded, our fruits will produce abundance. We can know that we will have what we want, because we asked "in Jesus name".